英國子彈頭列車與中國的比較(一)
U.K. bullet train compared to China
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在這個中國視頻中,我談到了英國的火車和取消HS2的事情。在中國,高鐵是一種極好的旅行方式。英國如果有更快的火車會受益良多...但代價成本呢?
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In this China vlog, I talk about the United Kingdom trains and the cancellation of the HS2. Bullet Trains in China are an excellent way to travel. The UK would benefit from having faster trains... but the costs?
在這個中國視頻中,我談到了英國的火車和取消HS2的事情。在中國,高鐵是一種極好的旅行方式。英國如果有更快的火車會受益良多...但代價成本呢?
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UK follows US anti-China policy. It first banned Huawei, then drove the China off the HS2 project and then later the nuclear projects. Had China been involved with HS2 it would have the skill, experience and know-how to build the HSR at a considerably lower price. UK sadly played politics with infrastructure building. It is re-inventing the wheel from scratch so the cost has shot through the roof. It reaps what it sows.
英國追隨美國的反華政策。它首先禁止了華為,然后驅逐中國參與HS2項目,隨后又取消了核項目。如果中國參與了HS2項目,它將具備建造高速鐵路所需的技能、經驗和專業知識,并且成本會大大降低??杀氖?,英國在基礎設施建設中玩弄政治手段,它正在從頭開始重新發明輪子,導致成本飆升。它自食其果。
The US has only one country in mind on everything, the US.
在所有事情上,美國腦子里只有一個國家,那就是美國自己。
UK first of G7 joined Belt and Road initiative, called for big project super train and nuclear plant, then he made U turn & passed to Japan and France, dismantled 5G accessories. Anyway he felt gains, but lose to Jakarta, the 350 Km/hr bullet train. Why can’t built in UK? What bullet train need in order to run? That is Huawei equipments to control the speed and communication.
英國首先加入了G7國家中的一帶一路倡議,提出了建設大型超級列車和核電站的計劃,然后他掉頭向日本和法國傳達,并拆除了5G設備配件。無論如何他感覺得到了利益,但輸給了雅加達時速350公里/小時的子彈頭列車。為什么英國不能建造呢?子彈頭列車需要什么條件才能運行?那就是華為的設備來控制速度和通訊。
That is why we call UK a sunset country, stuck in a quicksand.
這就是為什么我們稱英國為一個日落國家,陷入了泥沼無法自拔。
China were supposedly stil involved right until the last few years trying to make it work..... would not be surprised China probably got fed up of redtape and or being intentionally messed around ala UK and Chinese nuclear power station or whatever the Chinese were trying to benefit the uk with.....
im also pretty sure the HS2 has been talked about for at least 50 yrs now..... i remember HS2 talk with a young Richard Bransons leaning Virgin trains when i was a kid in school FFS!!
now in that same time China has gone from fishing village to the solar systems most high tech developed megatropolis!!! Richard Branson himself is now a retired oap astronaut!!! For context!!!! For even more ducks laughing context or idiotic westerners crying into their bowl of cereal...... it took China 10 yrs total to go from ZERO NADA ZILCH 0 HSR to developing and leading the world in the HSR game!!!!
中國似乎一直在過去幾年里嘗試讓它發揮作用,直到最后幾年... 不會感到驚訝,中國可能厭倦了繁文縟節,或者像英國和中國核電站或者中國試圖讓英國受益的其他項目一樣被故意搞砸了...
我也很確定英國的高速鐵路2號線至少已經被討論了50年了……我還記得我小時候在學校時與年輕的理查德·布蘭森有關維珍列車的高速鐵路2號線的討論,真是夠了??!
但現在,在同一段時間里,中國已經從一個漁村發展成為太陽系中技術最先進的大都市?。?! 理查德·布蘭森本人現在是一個退休的OAP宇航員??!為了更加嘲笑那些愚蠢的西方人或者那些哭泣的白癡,中國僅花了10年的時間從零開始,成為了高速鐵路游戲的領導者并引領世界!
The UK has money to give away to certain countries for war, not for peace, whilst neglecting its own infrastructure, its homeless and destitute, but taxing more and more, including the so-called middle class who are actually struggling financially. That is British politics for you. It is a case of electing a bad or a worse Prime Minister, who is ineffective, ineffectual, and lacks long term vision for the best interests of the country. They talk too much but achieve too little.
In the US, their politics is even worse. Not only do they talk too much and achieve too little, but also they interfere with the internal affairs of so many countries around the world just because they think that they are the "chosen ones" and have the righteousness to preach democracy, freedom and human rights whilst they themselves breach all of them.
英國有錢給某些國家用于戰爭,卻忽視自己的基礎設施、無家可歸和貧困人口,并且不斷增稅,包括那些實際上在財務上掙扎的所謂中產階級。這就是英國的政治。選擇一個糟糕或更糟的首相,他們無能無效,缺乏對國家最大利益的長期愿景。他們說得太多,但實際成果太少。
在美國,他們的政治狀況甚至更糟。他們不僅喋喋不休卻很少有實際成果,而且還干涉世界各地許多國家的內部事務,僅因他們認為自己是"天選之民",有權利傳教民主、自由和人權,而實際上他們自己卻違反這些原則。
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The last time I was in Scotland with my Chinese wife I was embarrassed with our rail service and stations as well as our infrastructure in general. The bullet trains in China are sensational with the general public being very well looked after. When you look at the tram lines in Edinburgh and the cost and time it took to lay them on the surface of the road and compare it with the underground Metro lines and stations built in Shenzhen over the same time limit the difference is mind blowing and Scotland is sadly a clown world.
我上一次和我的中國妻子在蘇格蘭時,,我對我們的鐵路服務和車站以及我們的總體基礎設施感到非常尷尬。中國的子彈頭列車令人印象深刻,廣大乘客也得到了很好的照顧。您看到愛丁堡的有軌電車線路,以及在路面上鋪設這些線路所花費的成本和時間,再與深圳在相同時限內建造的地下地鐵線路和車站進行比較時,就會發現兩者之間的差距令人震驚,而蘇格蘭則是一個悲慘的小丑世界。
Yep, when you see China and what has been built... you have to question so much of what we see in the West!!
是的,當你看到中國以及他們建造的一切時...你不得不對我們在西方所見到的很多事物產生質疑??!
The question all the westerners should ask is where are all the tax dollars being spend???? It's certainly not used to improve living standards of people.
所有西方人都應該問的問題是,納稅人的錢都花在哪里了?顯然不是用來提高人們的生活水平。
In UK, not only the hospitals are full with patients. But the prisons are also completely full and no capacity to admit more criminals! How ironic and what a pity case of affairs!
在英國,不僅醫院擠滿了病人,監獄也完全滿員,沒有能力接納更多的罪犯!多么諷刺,多么可悲的情況!
Better than the homeless alternative starving and begging in the streets. Terribly tragic what has become of a former empire/imperial power. Another sad example of socioeconomic decay in the west.
Kharma goes full circle and strikes home hard!! Please pray for the Brits.??
相比于在街頭挨餓和乞討,無家可歸者的情況要好得多。前大英帝國/帝國主義大國所淪為的悲劇令人痛心。這是西方社會經濟衰敗的又一個悲哀例子。因果報應成全循環,狠狠地打擊了自己!請為英國人祈禱。??
The prisons are full, too bad that they can no longer sent them to Australia, and no more colonies available.
監獄也滿員了,太糟糕了吧,很遺憾他們不能再把罪犯送去澳大利亞,也沒有其他殖民地可供選擇了。
Soon UK will follow US's footstep and release many of them.
不久之后,英國將步美國的后塵,釋放其中很多人。
Competition and national pride aside, my heart goes out to the UK and its people. They deserve better.
撇開競爭和民族自豪感,我的心與英國及其人民同在。他們值得更好的待遇。
The prices are also reasonable (compared to the UK cheap) for the ordinary seats on the bullet train. Of course you're gonna pay an arm and a leg for the business class that Iain uses, and you'll be among the masses of lower levels of Chinese public who aren't always that polite or courteous in the 'British' way. But it's China and you do things the Chinese way. And for the likes of those poorer, working class ones of us, even the slow (dirt cheap) trains in China are punctual, clean and better than the British trains.
The SMP are down the pan cuz the leaders are corrupt and they insist on sending men who call themselves women to women's prisons.
But like you say, Britain is more and more an embarrassment, I I don't want to go back if I can help it.
和英國相比,子彈列車的普通座位價格也很合理。當然,如果你像Iain那樣使用商務艙,你將支付高昂的費用,并且你可能會被混雜在中國公眾的低層次中,這些人并不總是像“英國人”那樣禮貌和有風度。但這是在中國,你必須按照中國的方式去做事情。對于像我們這樣的窮人、工人階級來說,即使是中國的慢火車也是準時、干凈,比英國的火車更好。
英國國家監獄管理局(SMP)很糟糕,因為領導人腐敗,他們堅持把自稱為女人的男人送進女子監獄。但正如你所說,英國越來越令人難堪,如果可以的話,我不想再回去了。
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The West is finished, Britain & the EU are merely subservient vassals to the decaying US Empire. No European country is sovereign & would be able to choose a completely different path like joining BRICS+ for example, without facing massive condemnation & consequences from the USA and their vassals.
Look what happened a year ago when the USA blew up the Nord Stream Pipelines resulting in the beginning of deindustrialization due to massive energy price hike, recession and threat of people going cold this winter in Germany.
I would be staying put in China.
China is a sovereign country that makes its own decisions in the interests of its own people & its own prosperity.
西方已經完蛋了,英國和歐盟只不過是正在衰敗的美國帝國的附庸。沒有一個歐洲國家是主權國家,他們無法選擇完全不同的道路,比如加入金磚國家+,而不會面臨來自美國及其附庸的巨大譴責和后果??纯匆荒昵鞍l生了什么,當時美國炸毀了北溪管道,導致德國開始去工業化,原因是能源價格大幅上漲、經濟衰退,并有人在今年冬天受寒的威脅。我會留在中國。中國是一個主權國家,會為了本國人民的利益和自身繁榮做出自己的決策。
I'm travelling from London to Manchester few month ago, be honest I'm not sure whether the train I travelled is High Speed Train. ( It was shaking, noisy, and about max 170 - 180 Km/hr I could recall) Let put all argument to rest. I regret to write that most of my meeting with the British are not productive at all, because British have too much views and at the end, nothing much able to achieve.
幾個月前我從倫敦去曼徹斯特旅行,老實說,我不確定我乘坐的火車是否是高速列車。(它在搖晃,噪音很大,我記得最高時速約170 - 180公里)讓我們把所有爭論放下吧。我很遺憾地寫道,我與英國人的大多數會議都沒有任何成果,因為英國人有太多意見,最終沒有多少能夠實現。
building large scale infrastructure requires preparing an appropriate foundation for the project. So the cost not only includes the preparation of any hazardous physical environment, it includes the costs of political corruption and political incompetence in the project's environment. (also explains why, despite having engineering comptence, India continually fails)
建造大規?;A設施需要為項目準備適當的基礎。因此,成本不僅包括準備任何危險的物理環境,還包括項目環境中的政治腐敗和政治無能的成本。(這也解釋了為什么盡管在工程能力方面具備競爭力,印度仍然屢屢失敗。)
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Bro, don't even talk about the bullet train here in California. They've been building that stretch for the last 25 years; first on paper starting in the late 1990s and real construction ongoing till now, and still have not finished one segment of it. First segment to be done by 2030 but its in a remote part of California where there are no users or patrons who will use this??? Don't trust any politicians.
兄弟,別提加利福尼亞的高鐵了。他們已經在修建那段路線已經過去了25年;從上世紀90年代末開始紙上談兵,真正的建設一直持續到現在,但仍然沒有完成其中的一個部分。第一個部分要到2030年才能完工,而且它位于加利福尼亞一個偏遠的地區,沒有使用者或顧客會去使用這個???不要相信任何政客。
China is great China is the future China is the leader ?? from Nepal
中國太棒了 中國是未來 中國是領導者?? 來自尼泊爾
It is leading the way on so many things, including human endeavour and fairness.
在許多方面,包括人類努力和公平性,中國引領潮流。
Thanks for touching on this subject.
We encounter the same challenges/horrors where I live that continue to plague tax payers. No infrastructure projects can be executed within reasonable budget nor timeline. We have a subway extension btw downtown and airport that was supposed to be completed years ago and its budget exceeded multiple folds. It appears the most profitable business is resorting to repeatedly resurfacing the same roads to milk the cows and justify absurd tax hikes. Our government/visionaries have big plans for future development but the reality is unlikely attainable.
In short, too much red tape. Nothing ever gets done. We live in a perpetual vacuum. Pray for us.??
感謝你提及這個話題
我們在我所在的地方也遇到了同樣的挑戰和困擾,這繼續困擾著納稅人。沒有一個基礎設施項目能夠按照合理的預算和時間表完成。我們有一個連接市區和機場的地鐵延伸項目,本應該在幾年前完成,但其預算超出了多倍。似乎最賺錢的生意是不斷重新鋪設同一條道路,從而套取利潤,合理化荒謬的稅收增加。我們的政府和遠見者對未來發展有著遠大的計劃,但現實很難實現。
簡而言之,管束太多。什么事情都無法實現。我們生活在一個永無止境的真空中。為我們祈禱吧??
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Doesn't matter who you vote, I have lost faith in UK politics, not sure if it's the system or the politicians, they have forgotten that they are there to serve the country and the people instead I think they are there to serve themselves.
無論你投票給誰,我對英國的政治失去了信心,不確定是制度還是政客的問題他們已經忘記了他們是為國家和人民服務的,相反,我認為他們在為自己服務。
The train strikes frequently drive people mad. UK is falling behind / backward , it is so outdated. The income tax in the UK is one of the highest in the world, and yet the people don’t benefit anything from the government
火車罷工經常讓人發瘋。英國正在落后,過時了。英國的所得稅是世界上最高的之一,但人民沒有從政府那里得到任何好處
That is most interesting Lian. The high speed Rail cost comparison is shocking, it highlights the differences in governments decision making.
這很有趣,Lian,這個高速鐵路成本比較很讓人震驚,它凸顯了政府決策的差異。
No crime committed if you legalized corruption. Thanks for sharing.
如果你合法化腐敗,就沒有犯罪。謝謝分享。
While UK wants to colonize other countries, no other countries don’t want to have any thing to do with UK.
雖然英國想要殖民其他國家,但沒有其他國家不想與英國有任何關系。
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On the bright side, UK will still have National Express coaches!
從好的方面來看,英國仍將擁有國家快車!
And and london underground which doesn't look like it has changed in the last 30 years
還有倫敦地鐵,看起來好像過去30年都沒有改變過。
Unashamed the Brits still called their nation Great Britain!
不知羞恥的英國人仍然稱自己的國家為大不列顛!
When you talked about the cost of UK's train, the duck from your back is laughing.
當你談到英國火車的成本時,你背后的鴨子在笑。
They ain’t serving the public, only their own pocket. It’s call “corruption”.
他們不是為公眾服務,只為自己的錢袋服務。這就是所謂的“腐敗”。
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The British pride is their stumbling block.
英國人的驕傲是他們的絆腳石。
California and UK railway routes are flat, virtually need no tunnels like in most part of China. Yet they cost much much higher
美國加州和英國的鐵路線地勢平坦,幾乎不需要像中國大部分地區那樣的隧道。但它們的造價成本要高得多。
There is no comparison at all in this respect. UK hi-speed train
在這方面根本不能相提并論。英國的高速列車
There is no comparison between U.K and China High Speed Train. I am nor sure if I should call U.K train High speed or down graded High speed. The China Engineering is light years when compared to U.K and USA. It's a disgrace. These western countries took all their money to wipe out the Russians and left their people in poverty. These countries were tricked by NATO. Zenensky used NATO, USA and the west and he is now a billionaire. Now we have millions of mothers and fathers are mourning for their sons in a senseless war like Vietnam war. Zelensky led these young men to their early graves and one day these parents will call for his head. This man is the reason why Russia entered the Ukraine war when he Boomed and killed THOUSANDS of innocent Russians citizens in the Donbas Region. This Hitler incarnate will one day be charged for Crime Against Humanity and War Crime. It will only be a matter of time before the truth will be revealed and the west will used Zelensky as a scape goat and a sacrificial goat.
英國和中國的高速列車根本不能相比。我不確定是否應該稱英國的列車為高速列車,或者是降級的高速列車。與英國和美國相比,中國的工程技術相差數十年。這是一種恥辱。這些西方國家把所有錢用來消滅俄羅斯,讓他們的人民陷入貧困。這些國家被北約欺騙了。澤連斯基利用北約、美國和西方,現在他成為了億萬富翁?,F在,我們有數百萬的母親和父親在為他們的兒子哀悼,像越南戰爭一樣毫無意義的戰爭。澤連斯基領導這些年輕人走向早逝的墳墓,總有一天這些父母會要求他的頭顱。這個人就是俄羅斯卷入烏克蘭戰爭的原因,當他轟炸并殺死頓巴斯地區數千名無辜的俄羅斯公民時。這個希特勒化身總有一天會被指控犯有對人類罪和戰爭罪。真相終將大白于天下,西方將把澤連斯基當作替罪羊和祭品。